Monday, April 28, 2008

So WRONG!

No picture for this post. That's the point.

I've seen the Miley Cyrus picture in Vanity Fair and it is so wrong. The girl is only fifteen. FIFTEEN. What the fuck was Billy Ray thinking? How can that photograph not violate child exploitation and pedophile laws? She's fifteen!

40 comments:

Caroline said...

It really surprises me that you are shocked over this considering the very sexually graphic conversations you have with your 15 year old daughter and then share on this blog.

Syd said...

I'm torn about it. I think it's distasteful, but a bikini shows more.

I think her Disney relationship puts it in the BAD category though.

Trop said...

Yes, there's that Syd. She's made herself a role model for millions of pre-teens, whether or not she wants to own up to that responsibility.

Personally, I think families that indulge their kids in celebrity role models get what they deserve when the role model falls off the pedestal.

Where is Vanity Fair's sense of responsibility in publishing a sexually suggestive picture of a CHILD?

Anonymous said...

Syd, I do agree that a bikini, or a lot of other outfits that some teen girls are wearing these days, (these days... gawd, how OLD am I!??), does show more.

But my biggest concern with the picture was that *look* on her face. It was a total come-hither, bedroom eyes sort of look. I find that much more appalling... on a *child*... than the actual nude shot itself.

Agreed totally on the Disney thing.

Syd said...

Excellent point about "the look".

Anonymous said...

Next thing you know, she'll be driving around Hollywood with a baby in her lap sayin' "hey, y'all, watch this!"

SassyFemme said...

I can't freakin' believe her parents let her do that. After all we've seen that happened with other teens/young adults in Hollywood, WTF were they thinking? Put her in some cute little teenage clothing, but naked, partially covered by a sheet at 15? Just wrong. A 15 year old doesn't have the best judgement and can be easily swayed (as we know), it's up to her parents to protect her.

Anonymous said...

Kris, that's fuckin' funny.

Sassy, I absolutely think you're right. It was her parent's responsibility to shield her from things like this. From what I've heard, her dad said that her "handlers" arranged the shoot... well, if you're "handlers" are doing shit like that, it's time to fire their asses.

The speculation that I read on the messageboard where I first heard about this, is that she, and her parents, see her teeny-bopper Disney days coming to an end, and they were trying to get ahead of that by morphing into a sexy starlet. They didn't expect it to blow up quite so badly, so they're trying to ease out of it now. I think that is probably pretty accurate. Unfortunately.

Trop said...

Caroline, you are a fat cunt who wouldn't know the first thing about raising a child.

Hotflash said...

well, I came to this blog first thing this morning to make sure that you didn't get blown off the planet by the tornado's....

....however it seems like there is some kinda storm a brewin'....

Trop said...

No tornadoes here, thank goodness. We've just had too much rain.

Anonymous said...

Ya know, hotflash, I have always enjoyed a good storm. All the thunder and lightning, it's just... spectacular to watch.

SassyFemme said...

Caroline, having open and frank discussions with our children on all topics related to sex, as well as being able to joke with them on it contributes to an open and trusting relationship around the topic of sex, one where our children know it is safe to come to us with any questions or concerns, no matter what. It also contributes to the foundation for a strong relationship with our children when they become adults. They are far more apt to keep us in the day to day loop of their lives when they've had a good teen and young adult relationship with us.

I would certainly hope you really didn't mean to imply anything in what you said, despite the rude and condescending way in which it came across. It's never good manners to go into someone else's (cyber) home and criticize their parenting. Us mama cats DO circle our pride and collectively strike back.

Syd said...

I regret that I didn't tell Caroline to shut the fuck up right away.

Trop said...

I'm sure she meant it, Sassy.

In a perfect world, the secret to good parenting is mothers and daughters spending their quality time watching Little House on the Prairie DVDs.

Ting said...

If she willingly posed for the pictures, I don't understand how she can say now that they're inappropriate and she's embarassed. She shouldn't have posed for them in the first place. She remarked that you don't say "no" to Annie L. Huh? Although her parents left when they were taken, supposedly her grandmother was there.

Trop said...

Ting, I read that there is another photo where Miley is on Billy Ray's lap, and the two are posed in a way that makes people uncomfortable. I haven't seen that one, so I'll withhold judgment.

"a far more disturbing shot in the spread: the one of Big Daddy, Billy Ray Cyrus, and his daughter Miley. Like a Disney wish sprung straight from Cinderella's castle, Miley lies in all her precocious glory across her beefcake father's lap. His sleeveless right arm drapes protectively (suggestively?) around her right shoulder and reaches down to hold her hand. A hipbone pokes out below her bare midriff, and Billy Ray's Harlequin-like hair ripples out after him. The schism is immediate: they are father and daughter, yet they look like lovers … but they're father and daughter."

Anonymous said...

Ting, I, too, heard about her not feeling able to say no to Annie. I think that further illustrates why her parents, or grandmother, or "handlers", or any *responsible* ADULT needed to be willing to step up for her. I think it would be easy for a teen to be intimidated by a more famous adult and that is why she needed someone to be watching out for her.

That is what *really* aggravates me about this issue. It was a bad, bad pic... an awful idea. But I don't hold her *much* responsible for it.

Anonymous said...

You can see the father/daughter pic here: http://www.vanityfair.com/ It should show up on that front page, about mid-way down.

I can see why some people are saying it looks like a lovers shot. But frankly, I'm still bothered *more* by the other pic. I think.

Anonymous said...

I think it's a beautiful artisitc photo - for a 22 y/o. But really, is there any difference between this and a 14 or 15 y/o Brooke telling us that nothing comes between her and her Calvins?

What I find much more troubling is the report that out of the 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17removed from the FLDS ranch, 31 either have children or are pregnant.

Ting said...

I agree, simply. I think people forget that she's still a child and she does need responsible people helping her make appropriate decisions about what she is asked to do. And I think the picture is awful! She looks like a ghost to me!

Syd said...

I could whip her little ass for this one.

Anonymous said...

Ok, throwing my two cents into the other discussion happening here...

Caroline, putting aside the fact that you are NOT a mother and do NOT have parenting experience, if you were *really* concerned about Amanda's welfare and the discussions that they have together, there would have been much better ways to handle it.

Have you ever *privately* emailed Kim and expressed concern? I'm thinking not. Did you even bother to express your concern on one of those posts that have you so bothered? Umm, no, not that I ever saw.

Instead you chose to jump into a post, rather rudely I might add, that had absolutely nothing to do with the subject which you are so concerned. You chose to publicly lambast Kim's parenting, with no provocation, and not even related to the discussion happening.

You have let your low emotional intelligence and poor self-esteem drive you to make others feel as bad as you feel about yourself. I don't know why you chose here and now to do your lashing out, but I suggest you rethink that decision in the future. And be careful of what you're criticizing - before you judge other's parenting... if you haven't walked in those shoes, you really don't have a leg to stand on.

Anonymous said...

Ting - She really does look like a ghost! I think that makeup is so creepy!!

Syd - Yeah, agreeing with you. I thought *most* of the pics in that shoot were not good.

SassyFemme said...

Hey Syd, is that the shocker thing she's doing in that pic? I'm far too innocent from my Little House watching to really know. ;)

Trop said...

I'm with you Syd. Aside form the fact that it is just wrong to take sexually suggestive glamor shots of a 15 year old; when that 15 year old is the face of a billion dollar enterprise targeted to elementary school kids, there is a much higher level of responsibility at play.

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Caroline said...

You have been a total bitch to me from the very beginning and I have no idea why. Last night I was tired of pretending to like you and told you exactly how I felt. I have seen so many posts that you have written that I have questioned. For example: I saw a post you put up (I think on your old blog) where you had a picture of Amanda and a friend on the floor on their backs with their knees pulled in close and the title was "Butt Sex anyone?" How approriate is that?

You have put rude comments on my blog, but I see that you can't take it as much as you dish it out.

And another thing..why is your called me a "fat" cunt? Why not leave my weight factor out of it and just call me a cunt?

Next time (if there is a next time) I think one of your posts is questionable I will just email you. That was a mistake.

Trop said...

WTF? I called you out on TWO posts. TWO. I told you to shut your bedroom door to keep your cat from pissing on your bed, d'uh. How long ago was that?

And I thought you were really rude to beg your readers and supporters to show you some love when that's all they had been doing (and still do) for MONTHS. That was even longer ago.

Step off bitch.

Trop said...

And for the record, I do recall your comment at that one particular post, I did reconsider, and deleted the post. You were right, it was not appropriate.

And why are you wasting energy "pretending" to like me? Who the hell cares if you like me? I certainly don't care. What a stupid waste of effort.

Anonymous said...

Why on earth would you waste your time reading the blog of someone you are "pretending" to like? I mean, seriously??

If you have that much free time, you need a hobby or something.

Trop said...

I guess I should be flattered the cunt *pretended* to like me.

(See, I can say it without adding *fat*.)

Trop said...

Oh, I guess I was being a bitch when I suggested that Caroline declare Chapter 13 and get a second job rather than (not "then") set up a PayPal account for donations from readers.

alter rigo said...

umm...is it just me, or does the "c" word get used alot around here?

Trop said...

It's used only when applicable TG, and I think this is the first it's been used on this blog.

Hotflash said...

Trop... does the person of contention here by any chance know "She Who MUST NOT BE NAMED"? if so, that would explain a lot....

just an observation.

As far as the topic of discussion here, I am a parent of 4, and I speak frankly with my children about sex, sexuality, etc... and being a communicative parent in a private conversation is a responsible thing... posting suggestive photos of my children in sexual type poses for millions of people to view.... would be totally IRRESPONSIBLE. I hate that Ann L is hiding behind the "it's artistic" crap. It's NOT. NOT when a child is involved.

yeah... those pedophiles? They aren't pervs right? They just Love little children.....

YAK.

Trop said...

As far as I know, this cunt (I'll call her Caroline) isn't affiliated with that other cunt (who I'll just call CUNT).

alter rigo said...

i agree with u sassy, the momma bear comes out strong whenever the cub is threatened. its a parents instinct to protect their young ones, and one should be very careful when judging other ppls parenting choices. i believe this goes both for us regular mortal parents as well as celebrity parents. bringing up a mortal child is hard, a rich, famous one has got to be more challenging. im sure the cyruses are doing the best they can just as much as the rest of us.

and personal attacks on ppl shouldnt be necessary wheter it be based on parenting styles, body shape or anything else.

now lets all hug and make out ... umm... make up

Jesse said...

ROFL @ "fat cunt"

I will SO be back to this blog.

Sassy, you're more awesome than I thought!

Anonymous said...

Trop, just catching up on your blog. I used to REALLY love reading but now I am torn. How can you throw the fat word about as an insult??? Look closer to home, mate? Your response was totally out of order. Your wife is 10 X fatter than anyone I've ever seen....but perhaps that level of obesity is yet to hit the UK....Happy days